Re: [-empyre-] academia-From marc garrett

[<aka.leafa@xtra.co.nz>]

Talofa Marc
yeah...what did I mean by academic?
I guess I locate myself at the margins so I am always careful to not assume that every one is out to swamp me or make me feel like I am less than.
I say that because that is precisely my experience so I completely concur with you. Yes I believe that discussions can and do become exclusive ( and yes it does seem like the intellectual nod of acceptance)which is probably why I remain largely in the realm of the lurker and read the archives to 'keep up' with some of the conversations posted on Empyre.
My problem lies in that I am trying to be less 'angsty' or reactive to the fact that some people are really comfortable with language and constructs that remain exclusive of OTHER and in doing so I feel like I am in a position of owning my own power and ability to assume my own location in any conversation... so although I may have sounded like I was trying to be a clever art wanker, it is really that I am a frustrated black artist in the margins of a Western art construct and trying to be as forgiving or not as closed as the Western canon appears to be to me.

cher cher bo! leafa //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\
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> From: "Melinda Rackham" <melt2@pacific.net.au>
> Date: 2004/08/18 Wed PM 09:03:55 GMT+12:00
> To: <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: [-empyre-] academia-From marc garrett
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> -----Original Message-----
>     From: "marc"<marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
>     Sent: 15/08/04 7:29:41 PM
>     To: "soft_skinned_space"<empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>     Subject: Re: [-empyre-] subscription
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>     Hi aka.leafa and 'Academic' list users,
>     
>     I disagree with your notion that, this list needs to be a "place where 
>     academic rigour is maintained to a degree". On or in, what terms do you 
>     mean academic?
>     
>     If feel that 'academia' isolates other people who would wish to be 
>     involved in such debates. There is a big difference between intellectual 
>     argument and academic argument. Academic argument comes from a place of 
>     culturalized reference, high art, high science, or accepted and 
>     (supposed) informed knowledge that has been institutionally accepted. 
>     This means that if you use an academic argument, you are more likely to 
>     be agreed with by those who value such structures and theories. Because 
>     they instantly understand the triggers, signifiers being inferred. Thus, 
>     an immediate rapport occurs, a kind of mental handshake and recognition 
>     that one has equally gone through the same learning processes. This is 
>     of course a positive experience for those who wish to have their so 
>     called educational references re-affirmed, but it serves no solution to 
>     solve the issue or crux, that 'Academia' only serves the few.
>     
>     marc
>     
> 
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